Disclosed in some examples are methods, devices (e.g., STAs and APs), and machine readable mediums which utilize a Simultaneous Channel Access (SCA) to allow transmissions of a first wireless network to take place while transmissions are already ongoing in a second wireless network (the Principal Channel Access (PCA)). The SCA allows devices which support SCA to transmit frames even when other nearby devices on other networks have already accessed the medium and are engaged in frame transmission.