Methods and systems for secure messaging may involve receiving an encrypted message from a node, decrypting the message using a default key, sending a message, rotating a group key, and distributing a key rotation message. The message received may be to discover a master of a group. The message sent may welcome the node into the group as a member. The welcome message may be encrypted with the default key and may include information to determine the group key. The group key may be rotated based on an expiration of a group key rotation window. The group key may become a prior group key and the rotated group key may be a current group key. The key rotation message may be encrypted with one of the default key or the prior group key and may include information to determine the current group key.