Apparatus, devices, assemblies, systems and methods of using w spring clips over spikes for holding railroad tie spikes down to wood and concrete railroad ties and hold the spike heads to the rails. A first embodiment can use rail tie plates with box holders for holding end portions of a w shaped spring steel clip to press against cap heads of railroad tie spikes. A second embodiment can use a rail tie plates with vertical supports for horizontal bars over heads of railroad tie spikes. A third embodiment can use rail tie plates with vertical studs and upper threaded ends with flat plates attached by nuts over heads of rail road tie spikes, and with cotter pins locking the nuts in place. Additional embodiments include metal structures fastened, welded and/or forged to tie plates for allowing w shaped spring clips with mid portions that hold down heads on spikes to prevent the spikes from coming out.