The herbicides and plant growth regulants having the formula: ##STR1## wherein A.sup..crclbar. is a halogen anion; X, Y and Z are each independently hydrogen, a halogen atom or haloalkyl group of from 1 to 4 carbon atoms; R, R' and R" are each independently phenyl, halophenyl, haloalkylphenyl of from 7 to 12 carbon atoms or alkyl of from 1 to 6 carbon atoms, optionally substituted with halogen; W is hydogen, --CHO or --CHN(R'").sub.2 where each R'" is independently hydrogen or alkyl of from 1 to 4 carbon atoms, optionally substituted with halogen; and W' is hydrogen or represents a bond forming a double bond between C and W when W is --CHN(R'").sub.2. The invention also relates to the method of preparing said herbicidal and plant growth regulant compounds together with their formulations or compositions as agricultural products and agricultural use thereof.