Systems, methods and apparatus for encoding, decoding or transcoding visual media data are described. One example method of processing visual media data includes performing a conversion between visual media data and a bitstream of the visual media data according to a format rule, wherein the format rule specifies whether and how a second type of supplemental enhancement information (SEI) message that is different from a first type of SEI message is included in the bitstream, and wherein the first type of the SEI message and the second type of the SEI message indicate a first type of dependent random access point (DRAP) picture and a second type of DRAP picture, respectively.